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Description: A group of queers that are ready for the fight against Prop 8, the anti-gay marriage initiave in CA.

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Created By: rdm24

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We will share pics, stories, and news of our struggle, and get the word out about upcoming rallies and protests.

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Day of the Decision

Posted By: BookLust on: 3/13/09 10:55 AM

Whatever the CA Supreme Court decides, plan to show your reaction publicly.

http://www.dayofdecision.com/
 

It's an odd fucked up system....

Posted By: PhantomVox on: 11/21/08 10:53 PM

...opponents of gay marriage have warned that they will work to oust any justice who votes against Proposition 8, a threat particularly palpable in a year when voters in other states have booted six state high court justices after campaigns by special interest groups.

"It is a time of lots of crocodiles in the bathtub," said Santa Clara University law professor Gerald Uelmen, who has followed the court for decades. "Their oath requires them to ignore these kinds of political threats. But the threat of having to face a contested election is a significant one."

Uelmen was using a metaphor coined by the late California Supreme Court Justice Otto Kaus, a Democrat who served on the court with Chief Justice Rose Bird before voters removed her and two justices over their opposition to the death penalty.

Kaus later said that as hard as he tried to decide cases impartially, he was never sure whether the threat of a recall election was influencing his votes.

"It was like finding a crocodile in your bathtub when you go to shave in the morning," Kaus said. "You know it's there, and you try not to think about it, but it's hard to think about much else while you're shaving."

The current court has resisted outside pressure. Despite threats of a recall, four justices in 1997 voted to overturn a state law that required parental consent for teenagers to obtain abortions. The ruling prompted a campaign to unseat Chief Justice Ronald M. George and Associate Justice Ming W. Chin. Both were forced to raise money and mount campaigns but survived handily.

--from the LA Times
 

Buffalo Protest Yesterday

Posted By: matthewlp on: 11/16/08 11:21 AM

Didn't realize Buffalo was actually going to host a protest until Friday afternoon, but immediately got all excited and invited friends over for a poster-making party Friday night. Woke up Saturday and found it POURING, but went out anyway and stood in the rain for a decent-sized showing (for Buffalo, and in spite of the rain), but which lasted maybe only 45 minutes :(

I've shared some of your skepticisms, Edge, about the impact of protests, and the nervousness that direct 'catharsis' may substitute for more substantial efforts at change. I think though, that at the very least protests are also a huge morale boost, both producing and sustaining the energy required to engage in more efficacious efforts. At least, I felt really damn good that there were so many people standing around in the rain, sorta actually having fun in spite of our frustration, and the weather. And in a place like Buffalo, esp., where the community is substantial but diffuse, these events seem like a crucial means of uniting people for a coherent plan of action.

We know the gays are good at marching and parading, and we're such good exhibitionists we dig getting a little crazy in the streets. Now we've gotta get strategic, rather than going home to watch Angels in America again.
 

What next?

Posted By: Edge on: 11/14/08 5:41 PM

The voters said that Prop 8 should amend the California Constitution. If that happens, it can no longer be challenged in California courts. Because the law originates from the Constitution.

But-- that hasn't happened yet. The proposition will be challenged on procedural points. Basically, the claim is that a simple ballot majority is not enough to pass this change, and it must first pass the State Legislature.

Lamda Legal and the ACLU are apparently helping out:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaylegal6-2008nov06,0,220763.story
    

RE: What next?

    

Replied By: Edge on: 11/8/08 6:29 PM

     Here is the Lambda Legal website, with information about the case and a form for making donations:

http://www.lambdalegal.org/

Here is the ACLU page on the matter:
http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/relationships/37706prs20081105.html
         

RE: RE: What next?

         

Replied By: rdm24 on: 11/14/08 5:41 PM

          Hell, they got us more than HRC ever has!
    

RE: What next?

    

Replied By: Edge on: 11/8/08 6:47 PM

     Send a gift to the LDS.

Folks, the Mormon Church has spent so lavishly on us, spending millions of their tax-exempt dollars funding California Proposition 8, don't you wish you could send them a lovely thank-you gift?

Well, here's a perfect one that hardly costs a thing-- it's called an IRS form 13909. It lets the IRS know that there's a rotten church out there.... one that claims tax-exempt status while doing political lobbying at the same time. Whoops, that turns out to be illegal!

http://lds501c3.wordpress.com/

This isn't a petition. Man, do I hate petitions! This is a legal complaint, pre-filled with the LDS information, ready for you to add your name to and mail to the IRS. Later, maybe the IRS will give the Mormons the mother of all back-tax bills.

Here's a letter from a Mormon to her gay brother that's an interesting read:
http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/11/yes_on_8_from_the_inside

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National Protest H8 day

Posted By: Third on: 11/14/08 5:39 PM

Saturday November 15th
LA City Hall, downtown
10:30 am

http://jointheimpact.com/
    

RE: National Protest H8 day

    

Replied By: rdm24 on: 11/14/08 5:39 PM

     I'll be there! Promoting the homosexual agenda!
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